
Question:
Being redundant? In other words, isn’t this a bit like saying, “I’m a vegan but also a vegetarian.”
If one supports human rights but also feels the need to join a “movement” for the “enhancement of equal” rights for women, isn’t it only reasonable to interpret this as a woman who is placing the rights of women or modern Feminists above those of men?
Is this not further evidence that modern Feminism is a self-serving movement/philosophy which is, indeed, mutually exclusive with advancement of equal HUMAN rights?
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about 1 month ago
Of course it is redundant if I only added air to the tires on the left side of my car I would soon be driving with a list to the right wouldn’t I?
You can’t achieve equality between any two things by only working on one.
And you dang sure can’t achieve equality by making one side look better than it really is while making the look terrible when it is not.
That is an illusion of equality.
As I have said before if equality is a bridge between both genders you simply cannot do maintenance on just one side because eventually the other side will fall down. This is what has happened.
Society has and is more concerned with women than it is with men and that has led to the down fall of men making feminism useless much like a bridge that only goes halfway across a chasm.
What needs to happen now is the female side of the bridge needs to be demolished and a new and better bridge be built in it’s place. One that serves both genders.
about 1 month ago
notice how “they” are not answering this question. you have scared them. you have shown them up. you have frustrated them. you have a beard. kudos to you.
about 1 month ago
Well I chose to distance myself from any feminist who places the rights of women above the rights of men (I guess they are what you call modern feminists?). But I still call myself a feminist as a way saying I support the fact that men and women have equal rights now. I know the term is outdated since we have equality but I keep it out of respect for the people who got us equal rights.
I guess saying you are for women’s rights sort of implies you aren’t as strongly for men’s rights – so it would be better if we all just said we supported human rights. And people would save a lot of typing if they just said they were for human’s rights rather than both women’s rights AND human rights. It makes it sound like being a woman and being a human are mutually exclusive!
As for enhancement of equal rights – if we already have equal rights what needs enhancing? All we need is to make sure no one takes the equality away from us by privileging one gender over another.
about 1 month ago
You have made an illogical jump. Wanting to enhance equal rights is not the same as placing the rights of women above those of men.
And without that non sequitur assumption, your whole argument falls apart.
about 1 month ago
Why can’t they be one and the same. If you advance women rights do you not advance human rights? Could Women’s rights be a subset of Humans rights? I do not feel that one sex should have more rights or protection under the law than another. And I do think that human have a trend to take things too far. Equal rights does not mean punishment for one group.
about 1 month ago
On a rational level, you are probably correct. Feminists are like any of us who have a strongly held point of view. The tendency is to become a partisan who views all detractors of the cause to be defective, deficient and ignorant to their truth. A cause never ends, even when the primary objectives are realized. I always think of the March of Dimes and Mothers Against Drunk Driving as examples. Poverty will always be a good business of cause oriented people.
about 1 month ago
We all know what their up to.
about 1 month ago
Modern feminists, seek “superior rights” not equality. They seek to reap all the benefits without any of the responsibilities. Furthermore, they only care about American middle-age white women in the professional work force.
about 1 month ago
Agree. As of this moment, in the west, where equality has been achieved, and no man gets any privilege that a woman can’t get based on their gender, their movement is redundant. A better example of redundancy will be someone stating ‘I’m a Feminist AND a misandrist’. Hello ! One word says it ALL !
about 1 month ago
This great question should be asked every single day on this board, the obfuscation, misdirection and non-answers that pour in are dreadful.
In a “for everyone (that includes each and every woman on earth) world where no one is left out” world, there is no need for an small, angry, elitist, gender biased club like feminism in 2009.
about 1 month ago
I think women who say that are trying to distance themselves from “feminazis”; in other words, they want to tell you what the word “feminism” means to them.