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		<title>By: Dlphn B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dlphn B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tofu and spinach like plants</description>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, the fruits and veggies everyone is supposed to eat, anyway...


yeah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, the fruits and veggies everyone is supposed to eat, anyway&#8230;</p>
<p>yeah.</p>
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		<title>By: barebackrider_19</title>
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		<dc:creator>barebackrider_19</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is another very common question

Ever ask yourself how other animals get enough calcium to grow and maintain healthy skeletons and teeth, when they never seem to need milk from other animal species after they are weaned?    Ever wonder why humans and animals held captive by humans commonly suffer from bone loss and osteoporosus, when in wild animals it is almost unknown?

When you think of calcium you probably think about dairy products right?  ever wonder how the calcium got in the dairy products?...... Although many factory farmed cows suffer from calcium loss and btittle bones, because of the unatural amount of milk they are made to produce.  A wild or more natural raised cow will get enough nutrients (minerals (calcium), vitamins, amino acids/protien, carbohydrates etc) from a grass and mixed plant diet to support themselves, a nursing calf, and growing fetus  all in one!  Minerals come from the ground, are then taken up by the plants, and the products of plants (seeds, grain, fruit, nuts, legumes).  

Over in Asian countries dairy products are almost never consumed and yet in Korea, China, Japan, Thailand osteoporosis is much less of a problem than in the US, Canada, the UK, for one example.  Did you also know that the countries that consume the most animal products (meat, milk, eggs) have a higher calcium intake  (800mg to 1500mg) of calcium per day but still have the most trouble with calcium loss and osteoporosus even with all those calcium supliments?  The USA should be osteoporosus free right?.   In some African counties women who have had up to 9 children consume an average of 200mg to 300mg of calcium per day from a diet of mostly grains, seeds, legumes, greens, meat, fruit and at far less risk of getting osteoporosis than milk consuming cultures.

Read this http://www.drmcdougall.com/med_hot_calcium.html Mcdougal has exelent information on the vegan diet and the myths of cows milk.  

But I still have not fully answered your question yet.... By eating plenty of plant foods, vegetables, fruits, seeds, grains, nuts, legumes you will get all the nutriants required to stay healthy (greens, seeds, and nuts usuals have the most calcium)   

I have been a vegan for nearly a year now and I am I have felt the healthiest on this diet and I have been a omnivore, vegetarian and vegan.   And have never used supliments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is another very common question</p>
<p>Ever ask yourself how other animals get enough calcium to grow and maintain healthy skeletons and teeth, when they never seem to need milk from other animal species after they are weaned?    Ever wonder why humans and animals held captive by humans commonly suffer from bone loss and osteoporosus, when in wild animals it is almost unknown?</p>
<p>When you think of calcium you probably think about dairy products right?  ever wonder how the calcium got in the dairy products?&#8230;&#8230; Although many factory farmed cows suffer from calcium loss and btittle bones, because of the unatural amount of milk they are made to produce.  A wild or more natural raised cow will get enough nutrients (minerals (calcium), vitamins, amino acids/protien, carbohydrates etc) from a grass and mixed plant diet to support themselves, a nursing calf, and growing fetus  all in one!  Minerals come from the ground, are then taken up by the plants, and the products of plants (seeds, grain, fruit, nuts, legumes).  </p>
<p>Over in Asian countries dairy products are almost never consumed and yet in Korea, China, Japan, Thailand osteoporosis is much less of a problem than in the US, Canada, the UK, for one example.  Did you also know that the countries that consume the most animal products (meat, milk, eggs) have a higher calcium intake  (800mg to 1500mg) of calcium per day but still have the most trouble with calcium loss and osteoporosus even with all those calcium supliments?  The USA should be osteoporosus free right?.   In some African counties women who have had up to 9 children consume an average of 200mg to 300mg of calcium per day from a diet of mostly grains, seeds, legumes, greens, meat, fruit and at far less risk of getting osteoporosis than milk consuming cultures.</p>
<p>Read this <a href="http://www.drmcdougall.com/med_hot_calcium.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.drmcdougall.com/med_hot_calcium.html</a> Mcdougal has exelent information on the vegan diet and the myths of cows milk.  </p>
<p>But I still have not fully answered your question yet&#8230;. By eating plenty of plant foods, vegetables, fruits, seeds, grains, nuts, legumes you will get all the nutriants required to stay healthy (greens, seeds, and nuts usuals have the most calcium)   </p>
<p>I have been a vegan for nearly a year now and I am I have felt the healthiest on this diet and I have been a omnivore, vegetarian and vegan.   And have never used supliments.</p>
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		<title>By: elvis p</title>
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		<dc:creator>elvis p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first of all dairy is not a good source of calcium nor vit.  D.. you want those things.. eat your green leafy vegetables.

thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first of all dairy is not a good source of calcium nor vit.  D.. you want those things.. eat your green leafy vegetables.</p>
<p>thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: ditto</title>
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		<dc:creator>ditto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fwf43 has raised a very valid and interesting point.
Please elaborate on the fertiliser thing, Im interested now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fwf43 has raised a very valid and interesting point.<br />
Please elaborate on the fertiliser thing, Im interested now.</p>
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		<title>By: pinkkissesxoxo</title>
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		<dc:creator>pinkkissesxoxo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>soy milk, fake eggs, &amp; cheese that doesn&#039;t contain milk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>soy milk, fake eggs, &#038; cheese that doesn&#8217;t contain milk.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are quite a few replacements for calcium if you&#039;re going the vegan route, or just the ovo-vegetarian route. Of course there&#039;s all ways calcium pills, but you can get calcium from different foods such as spinach and broccoli. Also, avoid foods like chocolate/ cocoa, and soft drinks. They take a lot of calcium out of your body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are quite a few replacements for calcium if you&#8217;re going the vegan route, or just the ovo-vegetarian route. Of course there&#8217;s all ways calcium pills, but you can get calcium from different foods such as spinach and broccoli. Also, avoid foods like chocolate/ cocoa, and soft drinks. They take a lot of calcium out of your body.</p>
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		<title>By: Call me Tumbling Dice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Call me Tumbling Dice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can get calcium from leafy green veges and even supplements if you need to.

fwf-----vegans have often reminded me of religious folks. Both tend to use convenience as a guide to what ideals to uphold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get calcium from leafy green veges and even supplements if you need to.</p>
<p>fwf&#8212;&#8211;vegans have often reminded me of religious folks. Both tend to use convenience as a guide to what ideals to uphold.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabir Abdus-Samee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabir Abdus-Samee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Broccoli is high in calcium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Broccoli is high in calcium.</p>
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		<title>By: Fetch 2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fetch 2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.calciuminfo.com/

Calcium 
You have more calcium in your body than any other mineral. Calcium has many important jobs. The body stores more than 99 percent of its calcium in the bones and teeth to help make and keep them strong. The rest is throughout the body in blood, muscle and the fluid between cells. Your body needs calcium to help muscles and blood vessels contract and expand, to secrete hormones and enzymes and to send messages through the nervous system. 

It is important to get plenty of calcium in the foods you eat. Foods rich in calcium include diary products such as milk, cheese and yogurt, and leafy, green vegetables. The exact amount of calcium you need depends on your age and other factors. Growing children and teenagers need more calcium than young adults. Older women need plenty of calcium to prevent osteoporosis. People who do not eat enough high-calcium foods should take a calcium supplement.

National Institutes of Health Office of Dietary Supplements

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/calcium.html

Calcium - Getting What You Need 
The amount of calcium that your body needs varies according to age. The greatest need is during late childhood and the teenage years. 


To build up a healthy bone bank, the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends the following daily intake of calcium: 
Daily Calcium Needs

 

Age
 Calcium need (mg per day)
 Servings of milk to meet need
 
4-8 years
 800
 3 servings
 
9-18 years
 1,300
 4 servings
 
19-50 years
 1,000
 3-4 servings
 
The best way to get the calcium that you need is by eating and drinking foods that naturally contain calcium. And you&#039;ll have lots of options since many foods contain calcium.
http://www.aap.org/patiented/calciumneed.htm


Calcium in the Vegan Diet
by Reed Mangels, Ph.D., R.D.
Calcium, needed for strong bones, is found in dark green leafy vegetables, tofu made with calcium sulfate, calcium-fortified soy milk and orange juice, and many other foods commonly eaten by vegans. Although lower animal protein intake may reduce calcium losses, there is currently not enough evidence to suggest that vegans have lower calcium needs. Vegans should eat foods that are high in calcium and/or use a calcium supplement.


http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/calcium.htm</description>
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<p>Calcium<br />
You have more calcium in your body than any other mineral. Calcium has many important jobs. The body stores more than 99 percent of its calcium in the bones and teeth to help make and keep them strong. The rest is throughout the body in blood, muscle and the fluid between cells. Your body needs calcium to help muscles and blood vessels contract and expand, to secrete hormones and enzymes and to send messages through the nervous system. </p>
<p>It is important to get plenty of calcium in the foods you eat. Foods rich in calcium include diary products such as milk, cheese and yogurt, and leafy, green vegetables. The exact amount of calcium you need depends on your age and other factors. Growing children and teenagers need more calcium than young adults. Older women need plenty of calcium to prevent osteoporosis. People who do not eat enough high-calcium foods should take a calcium supplement.</p>
<p>National Institutes of Health Office of Dietary Supplements</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/calcium.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/calcium.html</a></p>
<p>Calcium &#8211; Getting What You Need<br />
The amount of calcium that your body needs varies according to age. The greatest need is during late childhood and the teenage years. </p>
<p>To build up a healthy bone bank, the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends the following daily intake of calcium:<br />
Daily Calcium Needs</p>
<p>Age<br />
 Calcium need (mg per day)<br />
 Servings of milk to meet need</p>
<p>4-8 years<br />
 800<br />
 3 servings</p>
<p>9-18 years<br />
 1,300<br />
 4 servings</p>
<p>19-50 years<br />
 1,000<br />
 3-4 servings</p>
<p>The best way to get the calcium that you need is by eating and drinking foods that naturally contain calcium. And you&#8217;ll have lots of options since many foods contain calcium.<br />
<a href="http://www.aap.org/patiented/calciumneed.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.aap.org/patiented/calciumneed.htm</a></p>
<p>Calcium in the Vegan Diet<br />
by Reed Mangels, Ph.D., R.D.<br />
Calcium, needed for strong bones, is found in dark green leafy vegetables, tofu made with calcium sulfate, calcium-fortified soy milk and orange juice, and many other foods commonly eaten by vegans. Although lower animal protein intake may reduce calcium losses, there is currently not enough evidence to suggest that vegans have lower calcium needs. Vegans should eat foods that are high in calcium and/or use a calcium supplement.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/calcium.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/calcium.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: fwf43</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vegan-ism, Ive never heard of a life style so contrary to what God has provided us with.  Fertilizers made from animals basically eliminates all foods for vegans.  What is the real point of being vegan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vegan-ism, Ive never heard of a life style so contrary to what God has provided us with.  Fertilizers made from animals basically eliminates all foods for vegans.  What is the real point of being vegan?</p>
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		<title>By: misskitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>misskitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tofu, dark green leafies, soy...</description>
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