Question:
I am an atheist and I am very into animal rights. I’m considering becoming a vegan. Anyway, I just wanted to get other atheists’ take on this because my friend is an atheist and he doesn’t care about animal rights at all. He basically thinks humans are at the top of the food chain so we can do whatever we want to the “lesser species” of the planet. I can’t understand how anyone can be so cold hearted, but anyway, where do you stand on this issue?
@Mindoflife – I hope that is not actually what you envisage the meat industry to be like. Think more rusty cages and grinding machinery, less happy mooing cows strolling around in the sunshine.

Also, giving an animal what it wants in life is different to giving it what it needs. But I won’t get into this argument… apparently I am “too passionate” about it.
Just to point this out – I stated that I am considering becoming vegan, while this is true I am not trying to convince anyone else to do the same so please spare me the snotty comments. I agree that eating meat is natural – No one can deny that fact, but it is the mass production and cruel treatment of animals that I am against, not the actual consumption of meat or other animal products.

Question:
Well, I’ve been wondering about something for a while. I know slaughter houses are extremely inhumane, yet if a vegan were to bring this up and go on about it, they’d be considered some crazy vegan fanatic. But my question is, why shouldn’t vegans, or even vegetarians, be defensive about their life stye and preach about animal rights?

It’s just so wrong what slaughter houses do. I know we’re supposed to respect other people and their diets, but why should we? Why should we be supportive and not care that our friends contribute to a very inhumane industry? And why shouldn’t vegans rant on about animal rights? I know to some people animals don’t mean much, but at one time blacks didn’t mean much to others either. (I know, extreme analogy to some, but it works)

So to simplfy, my main question is why should vegans or vegetarians accept other people’s life style even when vegans/vegetarians know that those others choose to contribute to inhumane industries? (i.e. meat, leather, etc.)
kate r: Who ever said I didn’t care about what else goes on in the world? That doesn’t even have anything to do with the question.

Oh, and I never said I thought everyone should stop eating meat. I myself would never eat it, but if a person owned their own farm and did everything humanely, I wouldn’t care.
Yes, animals do kill other animals in ways that aren’t seen as humane, but they don’t keep them cramped up their whole life in filthy warehouses where they suffer daily abuse. I don’t even understand how people can compare animals kill other animals to what people do to animals in slaughterhouses. I could understand comparing it to people who go out hunting though, and I wouldn’t criticize people who hunt.

How you or anyone can simply say there’s nothing ethically wrong with keeping animals locked up in filthy little cages force fed hormones, antibiotics, and sometimes even other dead animals for their whole life before inhumanely killing them is beyond me.

Question:
Being redundant? In other words, isn’t this a bit like saying, “I’m a vegan but also a vegetarian.”

If one supports human rights but also feels the need to join a “movement” for the “enhancement of equal” rights for women, isn’t it only reasonable to interpret this as a woman who is placing the rights of women or modern Feminists above those of men?

Is this not further evidence that modern Feminism is a self-serving movement/philosophy which is, indeed, mutually exclusive with advancement of equal HUMAN rights?

Question:
I’ve been vegan for about three years now – and interested in philosophy for many, many more. Would love to find a forum to discuss the philosophical aspects of veganism and animal rights…but almost every forum I find is pretty much dead. Anyone know of a good site? Thanks!


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