Question:
So I came across this blog and I didn’t know what do think. The writer says vegetarians are no better than omnivores….O RLY?
I’m a lacto- vegetarian and this blog did not convince me to become vegan. This “my way or the highway” philosophy seems more damaging than persuasive. I want to know how other vegans feel about this subject?
http://www.vegpage.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8422:do-vegetarians-and-lapsed-vegans-upset-you&catid=72:blogs-and-thoughts&Itemid=2
Lol at the xfilez. It’s possible to humanely milk a cow (or goat) which I got to do many times. So the blogger missed that part and went on with generalizations (McDonald’s milkshakes?).
And to the person who pointed out it was a rant, I know that, I just want to know how many vegans agree or what they think about it.
I don’t mind pescatarians. In fact my good friend is a pescatarian but he does not call himself a vegetarian because he understands that fish=/=plants.
I actually don’t mind omnivores who cut back either. Hell, even if they just do Meatless Mondays they are doing good in my book.
I don’t mind pescatarians. In fact my good friend is a pescatarian but he does not call himself a vegetarian because he understands that fish=/=plants.
I actually don’t mind omnivores who cut back either. Hell, even if they just do Meatless Mondays they are doing good in my book.
Olivia C, I decided to give up eggs because I could not find a place that raised their chickens ethically. I have dairy coming from a city near mines who allows visitors to feed brown sugar to the cows. I still do think about veganism and enjoy soy milk, who knows, I could make the switch eventually.
The blog had ill-will towards vegetarians but I’m glad sweet people like you exist.
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about 1 year ago
Dairy is Rape…simple.
For more info:
http://www.myspace.com/dairy_is_rape
about 1 year ago
As I see it, no one is essentially any better than anyone else. Everyone makes the choices they want to make.
In many things, when people find a new path which they believe to be the right one, they are overcome with missionary zeal and feel they must convince everyone to follow the same path.
If you are on a path that you know is right for you, then all you can do about others whose enthusiasm for their newfound path compels them to condemn any behavior that does not directly mirror their own is to hold fast to your own beliefs and change the subject or walk away. There is no point in arguing with such people. regardless of whether their zeal is about religion, politics, or diet.
I find that it is useless to give these people much thought. They will mellow with time. Meanwhile, I have other things to occupy my thoughts.
So, no, I don’t get upset. If I see or hear something that violates my beliefs, I know how to ignore it, just as I know how to switch channels
when I find a television program objectionable.
about 1 year ago
The vegan is correct. One is either an omnivore or a vegan. Vegetarianism is a lame excuse of a social statement.
about 1 year ago
Wow that was enlightening. Abusive and absolute as well. However, also hypocritical and idealistic; a dreamer’s world.
about 1 year ago
I’m vegan and I hate that people like that make the rest of us look like lunatics.
Live and let live. The more you preach, the more people will disagree with you. I think anyone who is willing to cut back on meat, or eliminate meat altogether is awesome! Being vegan is very hard and isn’t for everyone.
about 1 year ago
I am vegan and I don’t agree that vegetarians are no ethically better than omnivores.
This is one person ranting for their own benefit to get their issues off their chest. I wouldn’t have even bothered reading it.
I used to be vegetarian, then cut out eggs, then realised that by still consuming dairy I was still supporting the meat industry – the thing that I became vegetarian to avoid – so stopped consuming it as it didn’t make sense to me to continue. So I understand the reason for this rant but doing something is better than doing nothing.
about 1 year ago
That link doesn’t seem to work anymore, however I do have some thoughts on the subject.
I went vegetarian almost ten years ago. It was an important step in making ethical changes to the way I live. About a year and a half ago I went vegan because it seemed like the next logical step, and as a lacto-ovo vegetarian I felt complacent. I felt like I was still contributing to the system that I despised. Although it is possible to milk cows “humanely” that does not mean that that practice is the norm. It is not.
Now I hate seeing restaurants that advertise themselves as being vegetarian friendly, but then every dish has eggs or dairy.The same goes for vegetarian food products that contain eggs, milk, honey or other animal by products.
I wouldn’t go as far as condemning vegetarians, but I think it should be viewed as a preliminary step to a more ethical lifestyle, the end result being veganism.
about 1 year ago
It took human such a long journey to accept that killing others to our self ratification is wrong. World (and many religious text) was supported slavery, child abuse, sexism, racism, domination over the weak and poor, and now speciesism.
The time will come for a “intellect paradigm shift” where everyone will access to the knowledge, updated research & information, choices, varieties and option enable anyone to become vegan or ( fruitarianism thereafter). The time is not far away.
To me, I don’t want to be a passenger, nor “wait & see” kinda typical end user. I want to be a CHANGING AGENT, for others stem from it. It’s bad to condemn others when we ourselves do not post ETHICAL value. This is NOT a vegan neither ethical vegetarian value.
about 1 year ago
The bigger question is why do people feel the need to judge others based on their diet? I find it disturbing that because I eat meat, a vegan/vegetarian thinks they are better than I. I know most veggies/vegans do not have this mentality but the ones that do disturb me deeply. It’s this idea of superiority that has lead to the holocaust, slavery, and general prejudice.
about 1 year ago
Don’t worry about these idiots.
They’re just caught up with themselves.
I’m Vegan and I think what they are doing is bullshit.
about 1 year ago
Personally, I feel that people who have to rant and rave about other people’s eating choices are just plain immature.
I’ve heard the opinions some vegans have about vegetarians, and i’ve heard the opinions some vegetarians have about self proclaimed vego’s who eat fish.
In the end, it doesn’t matter, the most important thing is what you! contribute to society, and how you! help the environment, not other people
about 1 year ago
I do not understand why you are so shocked to see vegans are anti-vegetarian. Vegans are against common culture because of how many treat animals. Just because one does not eat meat, that does not mean they are living animal cruel-free lives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOZwKiI6YjM&feature=related
about 1 year ago
I am a very strict vegan. I read the article and thought it was very amusing. he obviously sounded very upset about the the whole idea. Well I don’t agree with the choice of words in which he chose to use. The vegan diet is superior to any other diet on this earth when it is done right. Saying vegetarians are no better than omnivores is a very ignorant statement. There are benefits of being a vegetarian which can’t be found in a regular diet.
The man who wrote the article is looking at the slaughtering of cow and animals and not the health benefits of it all. he fails to see that there are many organic industries who do not partake in the vicious killings of animals he is talking about.
http://www.latavaeasministry.com
The benefits of becoming a vegan
about 1 year ago
I agree with the blog, actually. If you are claiming you are doing it for ethical reasons and don’t want the animals to suffer than its rather hypocritical to continue to support industries that do just that. The vast majority of dairy cows are not kept in those qaint little family farms; they are kept in factory farms and when they are no longer producing enough milk they are sent to slaughter. The veal industry (which is extremely cruel) is a direct by-product of the dairy industry.
And if you notice at the top of the blog it says “abolitionist vegans”. Abolitionists are different than animal welfare people. Abolitionists are for the complete end to using animals for any purpose.
about 1 year ago
Im a vegan and I think that it is great that people are vegetarian. Vegetarians are no better than omnivores? Yeah right. Kudos for being Veg-whatever!
about 1 year ago
hey, i did not look at the link, but i’m vegan and my thoughts on this are that it is obviously way way better to be vegetarian than omnivore for the many reasons that people decide to go vegan/vegetarian. but as a vegan who used to be a vegetarian, i wish i’d gone vegan way sooner! after doing the research and coming around to the conclusion that being vegan is the way to go, i do think that everyone who went vegetarian for animal rights/the environment/health reasons should do some research and think about going vegan, because it is really the fullest extent of those ideals.
a cow can be humanely milked, but let’s be honest: that is not the way that it happens 99% of the time. if you have a family farm and raise your own animals, that is a totally different matter. i personally still would not consume that product for health reasons, but ethically it would be a hell of a lot better. but if you are buying milk from the grocery store, even if it says organic or free range, it is probably not going to be 100% cruelty free. ditto the egg industry. and the dairy and egg industries are horrible for the environment, the livestock then go on to slaughter houses, supporting the meat industry, and dairy is pretty horrible for you. i have done a lot of research on all this and feel strongly that veganism is the way to go in terms of health, environment, and animal rights. i think it’s a shame that more vegetarians don’t decide to go vegan because it is really not as hard as everyone makes it out to be and has so many benefits.
that said, if someone asks a question on here about how to go vegetarian, i will by all means help them with that to the best of my ability and not try to convince them to go vegan. i am not crazy about any of this – i just have my beliefs, like everyone else who decides to make a fairly radical dietary change for their principles. i do not try to convert those around me and my boyfriend is not vegetarian or vegan, so i would never be hostile to someone due to their dietary choices.
about 1 year ago
blah, that’s why vegans are against peta.
it’s a bit more complex then that.. but i’m not going to support either side.
about 1 year ago
well, the writer starts the piece, acknowledging it is a rant, which is all it is.
People like that do nothing , but reinforce peoples opinions of crazy, dictatoring food fascists. I’m sure Hitler, another vegetarian, would be proud
about 1 year ago
im a vegetarian and i think that person is kinda physco. not everyone can go vegan and not everyone should have to. there are just some people who think they and only they are right and everyone else who doesnt agree is wrong. some people need to learn to live and let live. im vegetarian bc of animal rights and that article doesnt make me feel like thats not true bc im not vegan. the fact she says she got tore apart on another VEGAN site shows a lot of people, even vegans, disagree with her.
about 1 year ago
They can suck my balls. That’s what i think.
Birds kill worms, spiders kill flies, big birds eat mice, Cats kill mice, dogs kill cats, tigers and lions kill gazelles..all part of survival instinct.
Now all of a sudden humans are immoral for drinking a glass of milk.